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Question 39: For two thousand years, the whole religious world has believed that God is a Trinity, and the Trinity is a classic theory of the whole of Christian doctrine. So does the interpretation of “the Trinity” really hold up? Does the Trinity really exist? Why do you say that the Trinity is the religious world’s greatest fallacy?

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Question 39: For two thousand years, the whole religious world has believed that God is a Trinity, and the Trinity is a classic theory of the whole of Christian doctrine. So does the interpretation of “the Trinity” really hold up? Does the Trinity really exist? Why do you say that the Trinity is the religious world’s greatest fallacy?

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You all base your affirmation that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God on what is recorded in the Bible and then when you see the Lord Jesus praying to God the Father, this further affirms that the Lord Jesus and God have a father-son relationship. Add to that the testimony of the Holy Spirit and the testimony and defining of the apostles, and you are then sure that God is the Trinity. For two thousand years the world of religion has confirmed the one true God who created the heavens and earth and all things to be the Trinity, entirely because God was incarnated to do the work of redemption and because of the misunderstandings that arose from people not understanding the truth of the incarnation. Although many people feel that the Trinity interpretation doesn’t quite fit, because they don’t know the truth about the incarnation they define God in this far-fetched way. If it wasn’t for the coming of Almighty God, revealing the mysteries of the incarnation and dissecting this, the greatest fallacy of the world of religion since the creation of the world, no one would be able to know that the Trinity interpretation is in error. In actual fact, since the world was created, God has never said that He is a Trinity, the incarnate Lord Jesus never said that God is a Trinity either, and the Holy Spirit has also never testified that God is a Trinity, and this is an accepted fact. The Trinity interpretation came about after the incarnate Lord Jesus had come, when there arose in people a mistaken understanding of God because they didn’t understand the truth of the incarnation. Within the Bible, many people see the Holy Spirit testifying to the Lord Jesus being the beloved Son, and they see Him praying to God the Father, so there arises conceptions and imaginings about God, as though God were three persons—the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, many people don’t know which God to pray to, nor do they know which God dominates all things and decides all things. Some people feel that praying to one God isn’t right and they want to throw the other two into the mix. Some people feel uneasy praying to the Lord Jesus, so they have to include Jehovah God. These behaviors confuse people and throw their hearts into disorder. The disciples at that time actually asked the Lord Jesus what the true situation was concerning God the Father, and the Lord Jesus replied clearly, saying: “Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me…? he that has seen me has seen the Father; and how say you then, Show us the Father? Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?” (Jhn 14:9-10), “I and my Father are one” (Jhn 10:30). The Father and the Son are one, one God, and this is an absolute truth, with no mistake.

Let’s see what Almighty God says. “If any among you says that the Trinity indeed exists, then explain what exactly is this one God in three persons. What is the Holy Father? What is the Son? What is the Holy Spirit? Is Jehovah the Holy Father? Is Jesus the Son? Then what of the Holy Spirit? Is not the Father a Spirit? Is not the substance of the Son also a Spirit? Was not the work of Jesus the work of the Holy Spirit? Was not the work of Jehovah at the time carried out by a Spirit the same as Jesus’? How many Spirits can God have? According to your explanation, the three persons of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one; if so, there are three Spirits, but to have three Spirits means there are three Gods. This means that there is no one true God; how can this kind of God still have the inherent substance of God? If you accept that there is only one God, then how can He have a son and be a father? Are these not all simply your notions? There is only one God, only one person in this God, and only one Spirit of God, much as it is written down in the Bible that ‘There is only one Holy Spirit and only one God.’ Regardless of whether the Father and the Son of which you speak exist, there is only one God after all, and the substance of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit you believe in is the substance of the Holy Spirit. In other words, God is a Spirit, but He is able to become flesh and live among men, as well as to be above all things. His Spirit is all-inclusive and omnipresent. He can simultaneously be in the flesh and throughout the universe. Since all people say that God is the only one true God, then there is a single God, divisible at will by none! God is only one Spirit, and only one person; and that is the Spirit of God. If it is as you say, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, then are They not three Gods? The Holy Spirit is one matter, the Son another, and the Father yet another. They are distinct persons of different substances, so how then can They each be part of a single God? The Holy Spirit is a Spirit; this is easy for man to understand. If so, then the Father is even more so a Spirit. He has never descended onto earth and has never become flesh; He is Jehovah God in the heart of man, and He is certainly a Spirit as well. Then what is the relationship between Him and the Holy Spirit? Is it the relationship between Father and Son? Or is it the relationship between the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of the Father? Is the substance of each Spirit the same? Or is the Holy Spirit an instrument of the Father? How can this be explained? And then what is the relationship between the Son and the Holy Spirit? Is it a relationship between two Spirits or the relationship between a man and a Spirit? These are all matters that can have no explanation! If They are all one Spirit, then there can be no talk of three persons, for They are possessed of a single Spirit. If They were distinct persons, then Their Spirits would vary in strength, and simply They could not be one single Spirit” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

Still some may say: ‘The Father is the Father; the Son is the Son; the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit, and in the end, They will be made one.’ Then how should you make Them one? How can the Father and the Holy Spirit be made one? If They were inherently two, then no matter how They are joined together, would They not remain two parts? When you say making Them one, isn’t that simply joining two separate parts to make one whole? But were They not two parts before being made whole? Each Spirit has a distinct substance, and two Spirits cannot be made into a single one. The Spirit is not a material object and is unlike anything else in the material world. As men see it, the Father is one Spirit, the Son another, and the Holy Spirit yet another, then the three Spirits mix like three glasses of water into one whole. Is not that then the three made one? This is an erroneous explanation! Is this not splitting up God? How can the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all be made one? Are They not three parts each of different natures?” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

This concept of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is most absurd! This segments God and splits Him into three persons, each with a status and Spirit; how then can He still be one Spirit and one God? Tell Me, were the heavens and earth, and all things within it created by the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit? Some say that They created it all together. Then who redeemed mankind? Was it the Holy Spirit, the Son, or the Father? Some say it was the Son who redeemed mankind. Then who is the Son in substance? Is He not the incarnation of the Spirit of God? The incarnation calls God in heaven by the name of Father from the perspective of a created man. Are you not aware that Jesus was born from the conception through the Holy Spirit? Within Him is the Holy Spirit; whatever you say, He is still one with God in heaven, for He is the incarnation of the Spirit of God. This idea of the Son simply is untrue. It is one Spirit who carries out all of the work; only God Himself, that is, the Spirit of God carries out His work. Who is the Spirit of God? Is it not the Holy Spirit? Is it not the Holy Spirit who works in Jesus? If the work had not been carried out by the Holy Spirit (that is, the Spirit of God), then could His work represent God Himself?” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

Let Me tell you that, in truth, the Trinity does not exist anywhere in this universe. God has no Father and no Son, much less is there the concept of an instrument jointly used by the Father and the Son: the Holy Spirit. All of this is the greatest fallacy and simply does not exist in this world! Yet even such a fallacy has its origin and is not entirely without basis, for your minds are not so simple, and your thoughts are not without reason. Rather, they are quite appropriate and ingenious, so much so that they are impregnable even to any Satan. The pity is that these thoughts are all fallacies and simply do not exist! You have not seen the real truth at all; you are merely making conjectures and conceptions, then fabricating it all into a story to deceitfully gain others’ trust and to gain dominance over those most foolish of men without wit or reason, so that they believe in your great and renowned ‘expert teachings.’ Is this truth? Is this the way of life that man should receive? It is all nonsense! Not a single word is appropriate!” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

The Spirit within Jesus, the Spirit in heaven, and the Spirit of Jehovah are all one. It can be called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, the sevenfold intensified Spirit, and the all-inclusive Spirit. The Spirit of God alone can carry out much work. He is able to create the world and destroy it by flooding the earth; He can redeem all mankind, and moreover, conquer and destroy all mankind. This work is all carried out by God Himself and cannot have been done by any other of the persons of God in His stead. His Spirit can be called by the name of Jehovah and Jesus, as well as the Almighty. He is the Lord, and Christ. He can also become the Son of man. He is in the heavens and also on the earth; He is on high above the universes and among the multitude. He is the only Master of the heavens and earth! From the time of creation until now, this work has been carried out by the Spirit of God Himself. Be it the work in the heavens or in the flesh, all is carried out by His own Spirit. All creatures, whether in heaven or on earth, are in the palm of His almighty hand; all of this is the work of God Himself and can be done by no other in His stead. In the heavens, He is the Spirit but also God Himself; among men, He is flesh but remains God Himself. Though He may be called by hundreds of thousands of names, He is still Himself, and all the work[a] is the direct expression of His Spirit. The redemption of all mankind through His crucifixion was the direct work of His Spirit, and so too is the proclamation unto all nations and all lands during the last days. At all times, God can only be called the almighty and one true God, the all-inclusive God Himself. The distinct persons do not exist, much less this idea of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! There is only one God in heaven and on earth!” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh).

The words of Almighty God dissect this fallacy of the Trinity very incisively and clearly: God is the one true God, God is the Holy Spirit and there is only one Holy Spirit, therefore there is only one God. God is the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit is God, it’s just a different way of saying it. God incarnate is the Holy Spirit become flesh and the substance of the flesh is still the Holy Spirit. No matter how we address Him when we pray, God, the Holy Spirit and the incarnation are all one God, one Spirit, and this is a fact that no one can deny. Just as Almighty God says, “God is a Spirit, but He is able to become flesh and live among men, as well as to be above all things. His Spirit is all-inclusive and omnipresent. He can simultaneously be in the flesh and throughout the universe. Since all people say that God is the only one true God, then there is a single God, divisible at will by none!” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh). We all clearly know that there is only one God, which is the Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit clothes Himself in flesh and becomes human, why then do we not recognize God? And we split God into three before combining them back into one, defining God as the Trinity. This really is such an absurdity! It can be seen from this that we humans really don’t understand spiritual matters. In actual fact, no matter how we say it, the Trinity is a self-contradiction that always makes us feel that it doesn’t quite fit and it doesn’t sit too comfortably with us whenever we hear it. We know clearly in our heart that there is only one God, so can this God really be the Trinity? Is it right to use the Trinity interpretation to define God? Is it a true knowledge of God? Through the dissection and differentiation of Almighty God, we can see clearly that the Trinity interpretation is too preposterous and that it is certainly the greatest fallacy of the world of religion. Isn’t it cutting God apart to say that the one God is actually three? Isn’t it blasphemy to stubbornly insist that the one God, the one Spirit, has three parts? God has exercised patience with mankind for two thousand years, until the last days when God has once again become flesh to utterly expose and dissect that which pains Him the most—that being the most absurd fallacy of the entire world of religion—and to make all mankind clear about and understand that there is only one God, which is the Holy Spirit, and that the Holy Spirit is the one true God, who is the Lord of creation. Though God becomes flesh, He is still one God. He absolutely cannot turn into two Gods or two Spirits, and this is all the work of the Holy Spirit. The Lord Jesus was Jehovah God clothed in flesh, the Lord Jesus was the manifestation of Jehovah God. That is because the substance of the flesh was the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit was Jehovah God, so are They not one God? If we, as mankind, are never able to see such a simple fact clearly, don’t we then just have no understanding of spiritual matters? No wonder the Lord Jesus said: “Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip?” (Jhn 14:9). It looks as though we corrupt mankind really cannot know God easily, and if God Himself did not reveal the mystery of the truth of the incarnation, then no one would be able to understand it. The Lord Jesus personally appeared to man to speak and work and, furthermore, this was recorded in the Bible. For two thousand years, no one has truly known the Lord Jesus and even less has anyone understood the truth of the incarnation. If they had really understood, then they wouldn’t have defined God as the Trinity. In our conceptions we believe that Jehovah God is the God who created the heavens and earth and all things and who dominates all things, that the Lord Jesus is the Lord of all the saints, Christ, the Savior, and that the Holy Spirit is God at work, thus giving the Trinity a clear division of labor. The three that make up the Trinity are all in charge of Their own area—One that is responsible for heaven, One that is responsible for earth and the Holy Spirit that is responsible for working on man. If we divide God’s labors in this way, does this not completely negate God’s almightiness and all His wisdom? God is an all-inclusive God and God is omnipotent. If we acknowledge that God is almighty, omnipresent and omnipotent, why then divide God into three? That we are able to divide God into three shows that we do not understand God’s almightiness and His all-inclusiveness. We do not acknowledge God’s almightiness and we think that He is unable to do these things, and so we divide Him up in this way, as though it is reasonable only for God to work in such a way—this is a division based utterly on the conceptions and imaginings of man. God is clearly one God, so is insisting on cutting God up into three parts the act of someone who reveres God? Does this kind of person have any piety? Is this act not so very arrogant and self-righteous? Is not cutting God up and defining Him in this way actually defying Him and blaspheming against Him? From the perspective of Almighty God’s dissection and revelation of the Trinity interpretation, corrupt mankind defining God as a Trinity is a matter that most hurts God. It is equivalent to cutting God up into three, then combining Him back into one. God is the one true God, so how can mankind be permitted to cut God up in this way? Therefore, God says: “Let Me tell you that, in truth, the Trinity does not exist anywhere in this universe. God has no Father and no Son, much less is there the concept of an instrument jointly used by the Father and the Son: the Holy Spirit. All of this is the greatest fallacy and simply does not exist in this world!” “There is no time at which this idea of the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit can stand; it is a fallacy rarely seen through the ages and does not exist!” (“Does the Trinity Exist?” in The Word Appears in the Flesh). This is God openly dissecting and revealing the fallacy of the Trinity to the entire universe. If, when we see God’s words, we are still unable to understand them and we still don’t accept the truth, then we are defying God and can only be condemned and eliminated by God.

from Answers to Screenplay Questions

From whose mouth did the term of Trinity come? Is it witnessing of the Holy Spirit or was it said by the Lord Jesus Himself? Or is it a summing up from corrupted mankind? This term has come from the mouths of men, it is summarizing by corrupted mankind. First, God did not say this; secondly, the Holy Spirit did not enlighten like that; thirdly, no apostle said it, it has been summed up by corrupted mankind. Therefore, this expression is not the word of God, God did not say this. We all know that there is only one God. God incarnate has divine substance. After He completes His work in the flesh and returns to the spiritual realm, He will have God’s original identity. God’s original identity is the Spirit, God incarnate is realization of the Spirit in mortal flesh, while the substance is still the Spirit. Therefore, there is only one God. Most of the time He performs His work among men as the Spirit. When it is necessary to work as God incarnate, He is incarnated but that is only for a brief time. Therefore, no matter how it is said, there is only one God. God is the Spirit. After He completes His work through the two incarnations, He will not become incarnate again; God subsequently will forever be the Spirit. Three persons in one—Holy Father, Holy Son, Holy Spirit simply does not exist at all and this way of speaking does not stand up. God never said that He is three persons in one, Jehovah God did not say this in the Old Testament, the Lord Jesus as God incarnate did not say this in the New Testament, in His subsequent work the Holy Spirit did not say this. Therefore, this statement does not stand up at all. How did the Lord Jesus express it? “Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (Mat 28:19). When people are baptizing, they can invoke the name of the Father, the name of the Holy Spirit, and they can also invoke the name of the Son, but this is certainly not linking together the names of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, this is not what it means. It is incorrect for people of religion to turn this statement into a formula. Because at that time many people were uncertain of the identity of the Lord Jesus, the Lord Jesus permitted them to call upon the name of the Father. But actually when people were certain that Jesus was the Lord, that He was God incarnate, they could directly invoke the name of Jesus. There was no need for them to call upon the name of the Father, and even less need for them to invoke the name of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, there is a reason that God spoke those words at that time, as many people had not accepted the Lord Jesus, nor did they acknowledge the Lord Jesus. Therefore, He said such words that are more understandable and acceptable to people, but when people of religion see calling upon the three names of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit as a formula, then whose name are they calling upon after all? Men have got it wrong, one name will suffice and that is to invoke the name of Jesus. Jesus is the Father, the Father and the Son originally are one, isn’t that so? Whoever calls upon the names of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit does not understand the spirit, he has erroneously understood the words of the Lord Jesus; is such an explanation right or not? It is spot on. Why does corrupted mankind not understand the word of God, and at a stroke divide God up into these three parts? It is because man does not have the faculties with which to understand the truth. Therefore, when God incarnate spoke to mankind, some difficulties were produced, and He had to say that men could call on the name of the Father, that they could also call on the name of the Son if they were able to accept it, and that it was quite all right for those who really could not accept it to call on the name of the Holy Spirit. We can see God’s leniency toward man and we are also able to discern the Lord Jesus’ consideration for man’s weakness and ignorance. With regard to this matter, God was not particular and we should understand God’s meaning.

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Footnotes:

a. The original text omits “the work.”

Previous:Question 38: In recent years, the various denominations in the religious world have become more and more bleak, people have lost their original faith and love and have become more and more negative and weak. We also perceive the withering of the spirit and we feel that we have nothing to preach and that we have all lost the work of the Holy Spirit. Please tell us, why is the entire religious world so bleak? Does God really hate it and has it been discarded by God? How should we understand God’s cursing of the religious world in the Book of Revelation?

Next:Question 40: Almighty God, Christ of the last days, expresses the truth and does His work of judgment to purify and save mankind, and yet He encounters the wild defiance and brutal crackdowns of both the religious world and the Chinese Communist government, where they even mobilize all their media and armed forces to condemn Christ, blaspheme against Him, capture and exterminate Him. When the Lord Jesus was born, King Herod heard that “the King of Israel” had been born and he had all male children killed that were in Bethlehem and under two years of age; he would rather wrongly kill ten thousand babies than let Christ live. God has incarnated to save mankind, so why do the religious world and the atheist government wildly condemn and blaspheme against the appearance and work of God? Why do they bend the power of the whole country and spare no effort to nail Christ to the cross? Why is mankind so evil, and why do they hate God so and set themselves against Him?

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