Everything we have fellowshipped on above is about the normality and practicality of God’s incarnate flesh. The purpose of fellowshipping on this content is to resolve the problem of people always comparing the incarnate God with the God in heaven. The content we have fellowshipped on basically covers one aspect of the manifestations of the normality and practicality of the instincts of the normal humanity of God incarnate; another aspect mainly covers how God’s incarnate flesh conducts Himself and acts. Of course, this is not to say that just because people know how normal and practical God incarnate is in His speech and actions, they are able to treat the incarnate God in a completely correct manner; this is still far from enough. Now that we know how God incarnate speaks and works, and how He conducts Himself and acts, let’s fellowship on what things the incarnate God does not do, or in what ways He is different from humankind.

Some manifestations of the normality and practicality of God’s incarnate flesh are, in many respects, the same as the instincts of humankind—that is, the instincts, functions, and innate conditions of the human flesh. It can be said that God incarnate and ordinary humankind are the same in terms of instincts. However, apart from this similarity, His life essence, identity, disposition, and so on are completely different from those of corrupt humankind. This involves the ways in which the manifestations of His living out and His disposition essence differ from those of corrupt humankind. Speaking of this brings us to the next topic we are going to fellowship on, which is the second topic concerning letting go of notions and imaginings about God incarnate: not putting the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind. To resolve this problem, we still have to base our fellowship on the various revelations and the various aspects of living out manifested by the incarnate God. Theoretically, do you agree with the statement, “Do not put the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind”? (Yes.) You also want to practice according to this statement, and are willing to resolve this problem, but do you have a path of practice for how to avoid putting the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind? It’s far from easy to find a path of practice, isn’t it? Not putting the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind is a requirement placed upon you, but why is such a requirement made? This is worth pondering. When people come into contact with the incarnate God, because of the form of His incarnation and His outward appearance, they often naturally treat Him as a member of corrupt humankind. This is equivalent to treating God incarnate as a person with absolutely nothing to do with God’s essence, identity, and disposition, and then adopting corrupt humankind’s way of thinking when interacting with Him, using the ways they interact with others to treat the incarnate God. As such, the way people treat God in one respect reveals their wrong attitude toward Him, and in another respect reveals a huge problem that exists within them: They do not know the incarnate God. Although people verbally acknowledge the incarnate God and follow Him in form, they have not substantively come to know or accept this ordinary person. Not accepting this ordinary person means not treating this ordinary person as the incarnate God; the implication is that people treat this ordinary person as a member of corrupt humankind. To avoid this problem, and also to resolve it, today we will once again fellowship on the manifestations of the normal humanity of the incarnate God in His daily life, and how people should know and understand the various manifestations which He reveals in His interactions and dealings with people. Let’s first look at some issues to do with God incarnate that people cannot understand, or some issues that people easily view through the lens of corrupt humankind. First, let’s determine what things this ordinary Son of man, God incarnate, does not do, or some things revealed in Him that people fail to recognize. What exactly do these things refer to? First of all, He does not deceive, nor does He do things like contending, fighting, scheming, attacking, retaliating, enticing, and so on. Why should people understand these things? Once you understand these things, you will have a true understanding of the disposition and essence of God incarnate. Only with a true understanding can you manage to not put the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind. Only when you manage to not put the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind can you achieve a normal relationship with the incarnate God, stand in the proper position of a created being, and treat the incarnate God with the attitude a created being should have.

Regarding the things God incarnate does not do, let’s first fellowship on the aspect of not deceiving. What are the specific manifestations of deception? Telling lies, engaging in falsification, making pretenses, passing yourself off as what you are not, talking big, shooting your mouth off, and so on. Are the manifestations I just mentioned commonly seen in corrupt humankind? (Yes.) Deception and lying are a major and obvious characteristic of corrupt humankind; they are a common trait of all corrupt humankind, and no one can escape this, without exception. Everyone lies, everyone fakes it, and everyone passes themselves off as what they’re not, puts on acts, and makes pretenses. Moreover, it comes naturally to them; they do not need their parents to teach them, nor do they need anyone to influence, instigate, or incite them. They are born liars. Is saying this going too far? (No.) What about God’s incarnate flesh? Let’s not talk about far-removed things; as for the way I speak, in human terms, I call a spade a spade. For example, when guiding you in some professional work, if there is something I do not know how to do, I will say, “I am not very clear about this matter. I don’t know how to do it. You should look up some reference materials.” If I know a little about the matter, I will say however much I know. After I finish saying what I know and understand, I will say, “If there is anything I missed and you know it, you can add it.” You see, are these words I speak objective and honest? (Yes.) You have been listening to Me speak all these years, so do you see any deception in My words? Any pretense? Any falsification? (No.) When I fellowship in gatherings or ordinarily guide some professional work, I often give examples, citing some minor, unremarkable things from daily life. Although some details of the process might be omitted in certain matters, the matter itself is a fact. In addition, there are witnesses to how I handled and went about those matters. Have I ever lied? (No.) I do not lie, nor do I put on acts or make pretenses. You see, I wear the same clothes when I go out as I do at home. Sometimes, if My clothes are dirty, I will change into clean ones when I go out. It is merely dressing a bit more cleanly; I will not change into a set of high-end, name-brand clothes just to go out. Wearing ordinary clothes at home and dressing a bit more cleanly when going out—this is not putting on an act; this is normal humanity.

Deceiving, putting on acts, and making pretenses—these are things corrupt humankind often does. You see, most of what human beings say contains adulteration; especially when it involves their own interests, privacy, pride, status, or reputation, people will lie. For example, some people are particularly dissolute, often laughing and joking around, very slack in doing their duties, and not serious about anything they do. When the leader is not around, they chat idly, drink tea, go to the bathroom one moment, and stroll in the yard the next, living a particularly leisurely life. When the leader comes, they hurriedly scramble to busy themselves with work, pretending to be particularly responsible. Is this not engaging in falsification? Is this not making pretenses? (Yes.) Corrupt humankind has another shortcoming: They like to describe themselves as particularly noble and lofty, as especially insightful and affluent, and as people with special status and background. They never mention the sordid or foolish things they have done in secret, the mistakes they’ve made, or the shortcomings and defects they have—they never bring up an iota, or reveal a bit of these things, deeply afraid that others will see through to the truth and look down on them. Is this not engaging in falsification? Is this not lying and deceiving? (Yes.) They even claim they can do things that they cannot. If they previously served as a leader at a certain level, did some important work, or made some contribution, they have to publicize it extensively, deeply afraid that others will look down on them. When it comes to shooting their mouths off and talking big, they are “capable of anything,” but they never mention their own shortcomings or the defects of their humanity. People all conduct themselves and act this way. People view these manifestations as a common trait of humankind, and think that conducting oneself this way is very normal and commonplace and belongs to normal humanity, so, many people naturally impute this view to the incarnate God, thinking, “Does the incarnate God also lie and deceive?” For example, when I say I know how to make dumplings, some people do not believe it, saying, “Hmph, besides expressing the truth, You also know how to cook? That’s impossible.” They think, “Who has never told a lie? Who has never talked big?” The incarnate God is included in that “who.” Are they right in saying this? (No.) Where did they go wrong? (They put the incarnate God on a par with corrupt humankind.) Because all of humankind is capable of lying, you think God incarnate can also lie, imagining God incarnate to be the same as corrupt humankind, and even saying in your heart, “As long as God incarnate can express the truth, that’s enough. Even if You occasionally lie, we don’t mind; it doesn’t affect Your identity as God incarnate.” This is not a matter of whether you mind or not; you have to ponder whether these thoughts you have about God incarnate are right. Although theoretically you know that this is wrong and that you shouldn’t think this way, you have to ponder why you can think this way. It is because you are too deceitful and are dishonest, which is why you think everyone can tell lies and put on acts, and that God incarnate is no exception. Are you not making a mistake by thinking this way? Although making this mistake is not a big deal and does not affect your gaining the truth, we really must be meticulous about this matter and explain it clearly. If you treat the ordinary words spoken by God incarnate with such a doubting and disbelieving attitude, then how will you treat it when He fellowships on the truth, expresses the truth, and expresses God’s intentions, and when He judges, exposes, condemns, and prunes you? Will you change your attitude? You will not; you will treat it with the same attitude, thinking that the words spoken by the incarnate God are not necessarily all correct. Theoretically, you acknowledge that what He says is correct and that all of it is the truth, but when you do things that violate the principles and He prunes and exposes you, you think in your heart, “In this matter, God’s words are not the truth, because I don’t think that way about it. I have a very good excuse and reason for this, so I can choose not to accept it. I can reject and oppose Him with an attitude of ignoring it, avoiding the topic, and not accepting it, and treat the incarnate God with the same attitude as I use when reasoning with a person.” If you treat the incarnate God with such an attitude, what is the essence of the problem? Is your attitude toward the incarnate God rebellious or proper? (It is rebellious, not proper.) If you think the incarnate God can deceive, lie, talk big, spout high-sounding ideas, and shout slogans, then when He prunes and exposes you, you will think you have a reason not to accept it and to reject it: “I just won’t accept it, and I will oppose Him. Isn’t He just an ordinary person? Why should I accept what He says? I will accept what He says if it’s right, and I won’t accept what I think is wrong; I will accept it if I’m happy, and I won’t accept it if I’m not happy; I will accept it if what He says aligns with my interests, tastes, and mood, and I won’t accept it if it doesn’t align with my interests and mood. Isn’t this perfectly natural and justified? This is very proper, this is my right, and I feel not the slightest reproach in my heart.” If this is your attitude toward God, then is your relationship with God really the relationship between a created being and the Creator? Is it the relationship between man and God? (No.) Judging from your attitude or manifestations, the relationship between the incarnate God and you is merely the relationship between an ordinary person and an ordinary corrupt human; it merely remains at the level of a relationship between people. Is there not a problem here? (Yes.) Therefore, you must first be certain that since the incarnate God requires humankind to be honest people, He Himself is honest first. His humanity possesses the essence of honesty; this is beyond doubt. You should recognize this point, and you should also accept it from your heart. Not only must you recognize it in your heart, but you must also have such an attitude of acceptance in real life. Corrupt humankind can lie and engage in falsification in any circumstances, and anyone can make pretenses, shoot their mouth off, and talk big. The reason corrupt humankind can do this is that Satan’s corrupt disposition has become man’s life and nature, which is why they have these natural revelations. However, the incarnate God has the aspect of honesty in His humanity. Precisely because His life is divine, the element of honesty is even more so an aspect of His essence. This is beyond doubt, and people should not be skeptical.

Once I was chatting with someone, and they said they had a bad stomach, had gotten a lot of medicine from the hospital, and had been taking it for several years. Later their stomach problem got a bit better. I asked them, “What kind of stomach problem do you have? Is it a stomach cold, a stomach ulcer, or excess stomach acid?” When they heard Me ask for details, they wouldn’t give Me a straight answer, but still kept saying, “I have a bad stomach, and I’ve taken a lot of medicine.” Why did I ask them this? It was just a normal chat, to find out what kind of stomach problem they had. I sometimes get an upset stomach too, so if they had this kind of problem, perhaps they could offer some help. Chatting is not like fellowshipping on the truth or formally doing work, where there are clear goals, rigorous procedures, and a serious attitude. Chatting is more casual, with no particular purpose or scheming involved. But when I asked them exactly what kind of stomach problem they had, they wouldn’t give Me a straight answer. Were they lying? Were they telling the truth? (They were not.) Then why didn’t they tell the truth? Because they wanted to conceal the issue, and their reason for concealing it was that they were worried about how I would treat them after knowing about their illness. Whether they were worried that I would look down on them, or that I would dismiss them or adjust their duty assignment, which would affect their salvation, in short, they were worried, so they wanted to conceal it. Tell Me, was there any need for this? Wasn’t it very foolish of them to do this? (It was.) Then what kind of disposition do such people reveal? (A wicked disposition.) Where does the wickedness lie? (They speculate about God, constantly imagining things in their heart, treating their imaginings as facts, speculating about the intent behind God’s words, and guarding against God in every respect just as they guard against people.) If the object of your speculation and guardedness were a member of corrupt humankind, it would be somewhat necessary, because society today is too complicated, people are complicated, and human hearts are sinister. You don’t know who might act maliciously behind your back after finding out your actual situation, so you don’t want outsiders to know too much about your actual situation; this is understandable. You have to be guarded and cautious in every respect when interacting with people, and you cannot tell outsiders anything about your actual situation. This is a philosophical tactic or a principle for worldly dealings when interacting with people. But where did they apply this principle and tactic? They applied it to interacting with Me. I had never interacted with them before, but just from that one chat, I completely figured this person out: They tell too many lies. Tell Me, am I someone who would set you up or harm you? Am I someone you need to guard against? (No.) If even I am someone you guard against, then what meaning or value is there in your belief in God? Not daring to tell the truth about even such a minor matter, lacking even the courage to tell the truth—what kind of person would you call that? Isn’t such a person very deceitful? (Yes.) Isn’t it totally unnecessary to apply methods for worldly dealings and principles for treating nonbelievers to Me? Do I really want to find out about you? Isn’t this just chatting? Even if I did want to find out about you, I wouldn’t set you up or harm you, nor would I make an issue of it behind your back. So, for each one of you, I sometimes chat with you, asking how life is where you are, what the climate is like, whether the environment for doing your duty is suitable now, whether you have had any difficulties in doing your duty recently. Or, for some who have just come from mainland China, I ask them what the environment is like over there and how most people are getting on in doing their duties. This is just normal chatting. In one respect, it stems from the needs of normal humanity; in another respect, because you believe in God, the things we chat about are all matters concerning belief in God, and we don’t chat about topics of the nonbelieving world like stars, celebrities, social trends, or politics. If you have to be guarded even during normal chatting, I won’t chat with you anymore. Some people always think, “Do You have a specific purpose in chatting with us? You always ask us some questions when You interact with us; do You want to find out something? I absolutely cannot tell You the real situation.” If you think this way, you should say in advance, “Don’t chat with us. I’m afraid You’ll find out some information. I don’t want to tell You, so don’t ask anymore!” Once I hear that you are unwilling to chat, I’ll let it go. Do you think I have to chat with you? Most people do not have normal humanity, and I am unwilling to chat with such people.

We just fellowshipped on how the incarnate God does not deceive. This statement does not remain at the level of a theory, nor is it a mechanical saying. First of all, not deceiving is an aspect of the living out and revelation of the essence possessed by the incarnate God, who has God’s identity. It is not a theory, much less a slogan, but a true living out, a practical living out. Whether in everyday life or when fellowshipping on the truth and discussing work, the words I speak contain absolutely no deception, absolutely no lies; much less will I make things up. For example, when I am fellowshipping on a topic and cannot remember a word, I will ask if you remember this word. Sometimes you can remember it, and sometimes you cannot, so I will use another word to express it, or say that I cannot remember it either. In one respect, I have an honest attitude and do not make things up; if I have forgotten, I say that I have forgotten, and if I cannot remember, I say that I cannot remember. In another respect, sometimes I cannot find the right word or I lose My train of thought, in which case I will not pretend to cough, or say, “The doorbell is ringing; I’ll go open the door,” or “The phone is ringing; I’ll answer it.” I will not engage in falsification. How I am when interacting with you and fellowshipping about work face to face is how I am in My everyday life out of your sight. I am just this kind of person; I am the same to your face as I am behind your back. If I like to eat something, I say I like to eat it; I do not lie. For example, I say, “I like to eat tofu mixed with scallions, and shredded potatoes with vinegar.” Some people say, “I don’t believe it. What could You possibly be lacking now? You probably eat braised pork and dumplings every day!” I say, “Although braised pork is delicious, I really don’t like eating things that are too greasy. For breakfast, I just have a bowl of porridge and some side dishes; it’s that simple.” These are all actual facts; not a single sentence is a lie. The words I speak to you, the examples I give, or these things from real life that I mention—whether you view them as fairly human, ordinary and normal, or as a bit unrefined—in any case, what I say is all the honest truth, all based on facts. It is not to show you, “Look how ordinary I am, how much I blend into human life, how simple and unadorned I am.” I really do not have these thoughts. Sometimes, to fellowship on an aspect of the truth, I mention some minor things in life, and some people think this is God’s humbleness and hiddenness. Actually, that is really not My meaning. When I mention those things, I am just telling it like it is; I do not say anything lofty and grand. The purpose is to allow people to better apprehend the truth, and I have no other intentions. In My speech and actions, I will absolutely never do things such as calling a deer a horse, making an example of someone to frighten others, or punishing people severely as a warning to others. In the past, when we went to the places where brothers and sisters lived, they would busy themselves making dumplings, stir-frying meat, and cooking dishes. Actually, there is no need to host us like this. I say that I am not normally this particular about My meals; My meals are particularly simple, and I do not care for ostentation. Some people never believe what I say; they always think I am lying. No matter what I say, they do not believe it. Such people are such a hassle; they’re totally unreasonable. It is not that I am untrustworthy, or that the words I speak contain untruths, but that you are very wicked. No matter what I say, you are unable to take it the right way; you hold a doubting attitude toward whatever I say, and even think about it in a distorted way, considering it all to be deception, and you even put your guard up. You never believe that the words I speak are all the honest truth. What kind of problem is this? You can believe the words of devils and Satans, so why can’t you believe My words? Then can you still gain the truth by believing in God this way? The truth is certainly not hollow words, but the life reality lived out by people. The words I speak to you are all practical words. If you do not believe them, then how can you believe in God? God’s words are all honest and true; He never lies, engages in falsification, makes pretenses, or passes Himself off as what He is not. If you can appreciate these forms of conduct, you will have an understanding of God, and only thus can you, through God incarnate, gradually appreciate and come to know that God is practical in His actions and speech and truly comprehend the words He speaks and the truths He fellowships on. We have finished fellowshipping on the aspect of not deceiving.