Recently, we have fellowshipped on the topic of God incarnate. This topic involves the practice of “letting go” within “How to Pursue the Truth,” and we fellowshipped on “letting go of one’s notions and imaginings about God” within the topic of “letting go of the barriers between oneself and God and one’s hostility toward God.” We have fellowshipped on this aspect several times, mainly discussing how to treat God incarnate. We divided this content into two topics. Can you tell Me what those two topics are? (Regarding God incarnate, God has given us two correct principles of practice: The first is not to compare Him with the God in heaven, and the second is not to mention Him in the same breath as corrupt mankind.) We have fellowshipped on some details of these two topics, involving some manifestations of the normality and practicality of God incarnate. This included fellowshipping on what specific principles God incarnate observes and adheres to in living, existing, conducting Himself and working among men. Fellowship on these subjects is used to enable people to understand and know what manifestations God incarnate, this person with a special identity, exhibits while living among men. We mainly fellowshipped on the topic of the normality and practicality of God incarnate, and fellowshipped on many specifics. What was the effect on you after listening to it? Do you have fewer notions and imaginings about God incarnate, or have you come up with some new notions? (We have fewer notions and imaginings about God incarnate.) Then, is fellowshipping on this topic helpful for people in getting to know God incarnate? (Yes, it is.) That’s pretty good.

Our fellowship on the topic of God incarnate primarily revolves around the specific revelations and practices concerning the normality and practicality of God incarnate, aiming to provide people with a more concrete understanding of God incarnate, this person with a special identity. So, do you find that the more you understand the normality and practicality of God incarnate, the more you feel He is just a normal person, nothing remarkable, and the more you understand the normality and practicality of God incarnate, the less you sense His divine aura? Do you have such thoughts? (No. Listening to some of the examples God gave that talked about some practical living out and revelations of God incarnate, I feel it’s just that God’s outward image is ordinary and normal, but the revelations of His normal humanity far surpass those of us humans; they are things we cannot achieve. God’s normal humanity contains no corrupt dispositions, no arrogance or deceitfulness, no human pride or indulgence. Although God incarnate appears ordinary and normal on the outside, one can see His greatness from His humbleness. This is how I feel.) Usually, when famous people, great people, or accomplished major figures among mankind introduce themselves in various aspects, do they talk about their normality, practicality, ordinariness, and commonness? (No.) If one of corrupt mankind introduces themselves to let others know them, they will absolutely not describe how ordinary, common, and normal they are. On the contrary, through their introduction and their descriptions, they will try to make people feel that they are distinct from others, extraordinary, great, and possess superhuman abilities. If someone could even perceive them as an exceptional person, they would be happier. Look at how corrupt humans introduce themselves. First, they will describe how perfect they are, without any defects or flaws. They will also show off how illustrious their family background is, how noble their standing is, what academic qualifications they have, and what is outstanding about their appearance. Even if they have a mole on their face, they have to find a unique way to describe it, saying, “Look, even the placement of this mole is unusual; it is said that people with moles in this spot are destined for wealth or nobility.” When it comes to their appearance, they will ostentatiously proclaim how every feature of their face is unique, and what positive interpretations exist in physiognomy for every feature of their face, such as being destined for wealth or nobility, or being able to rise to prominence, and that among people, they are a fish too big for its pond. Furthermore, they particularly enjoy showing off their gifts and strengths in certain areas, how extraordinary and distinct their thinking and ideas are, and showing off what achievements they have made in which groups, how eminent figures praise them, think highly of them, and envy and admire them, or what great contributions they have made in which industry, and how much their bosses appreciate them. Regardless of whether what they say is true, in every aspect of their self-introduction, they try to make people feel that they are distinct from others, that among people they are the one and only, unique, surpassing all ordinary people. They look at everyone condescendingly; they see everyone else as lowly people and insignificant commoners, while only they themselves are the greatest, noblest, and most unusual. If you ask them about their academic qualifications, they will say they graduated from a prestigious university, that they have a postgraduate degree or a Ph.D., when in reality, they only attended an ordinary university. They never speak of their own defects, flaws, corrupt dispositions, aspects of their low character, or the wrong things they have done. As long as it’s about introducing themselves to let others know them, they will try every means to show off, praise, and package themselves, describing themselves as very great, extraordinary, and unusual. Even if they get sick, they will say it’s a “rich person’s disease,” making people feel they are delicate, pampered, and distinct from others. No matter what, they will absolutely not let people feel they are just an ordinary, common person. Instead, they try every means to make people look up to them, think highly of them, and admire them. If people can follow them and hold a place for them in their hearts, they feel even more pleased with themselves. If you say they are ordinary and normal, a member of the common masses, they feel that they’ve thoroughly lost face and that you’ve really hurt their pride; it’s even as if it would kill them. Throughout their lives, they seek to be unique and extraordinary. Because of their corrupt dispositions and such desires, many people often cultivate an outward image to appear very lofty, classy, and noble, and the outward demeanor they assume, their words, and their actions very much display the air of a great figure. In any group, if someone says to them, “I spotted you at a glance in this crowd; from your gaze, your facial features, and your presence, I can tell you’re not an ordinary person,” they become very happy. They will exaggerate this matter to an unlimited extent, and for the rest of their lives, they will keep those words on their lips, showing off everywhere, “In a crowd, people can recognize me at a glance and see that I’m a leader, a fish too big for its pond, not an ordinary person!” They particularly like being this kind of person, particularly like positioning themselves as an extraordinary, unusual individual who’s distinct from others, and even who’s one of a kind. Many others pay special attention to famous people, great people and those with status and position in society, paying attention to any news about them, their words and actions, and their everyday lives. The purpose of this attention is not for entertainment, but to imitate and follow them. Whatever these people eat and wear, whatever is popular among them, they imitate. Whatever topics these people discuss, they also discuss. They follow very closely, afraid of being left out of the entire trend, afraid of falling behind and being looked down upon. They just want to be a standout and an extraordinary person in the crowd, and are absolutely unwilling to be a normal, ordinary person. Some people, even though they are of average caliber, have no strengths or gifts, and have innate conditions that are very ordinary and common in all regards, are still unwilling to be an ordinary person, unwilling to be a nobody. Instead, they dress themselves up to be very lofty and classy, or describe themselves as very unusual, not some nobody. Some even work hard to imitate great figures, capable and competent people, and those with superb skills. They watch what these people do, say, and discuss, and imitate them, striving to become extraordinary great figures like them, no longer ordinary, common people. Therefore, when we fellowship on the normality and practicality of God incarnate, some people inevitably think: “Humans vigorously praise, package, and boast about themselves as being so distinct from others, so extraordinary and great, yet You always describe Yourself as so normal and practical. Isn’t this a bit unreasonable? Isn’t it a bit foolish? You are Christ incarnate, with such a noble identity, with such a great halo and such a great crown on Your head. How can You describe Yourself as an ordinary, normal, and practical person? And, fearing that people won’t believe it, You even give so many examples to prove how normal, practical, and ordinary You are. This is naturally somewhat perplexing.” Although it doesn’t conform to human notions, this is indeed how the facts are. The specific revelations of the normality, practicality, and ordinariness of God incarnate are just like this; this is a fact, I cannot fabricate it. Some people say: “Shouldn’t You at least mention some examples that make people feel You’re distinct from others and extraordinary and that Your identity and image are particularly lofty and imposing?” Well, I’m sorry to disappoint you, but there really are no such examples. In fact, My descriptions of the ways I conduct Myself and act in life and at work are the true revelations of God incarnate; it’s just that objective. This is all how it actually is; there are no examples which make people see Me as distinct from others, extraordinary, great, or as possessing a lofty, imposing image. Some people say, “Can’t You make something up? That would leave a better impression in people’s hearts, and not leave them disappointed. You describe Yourself as so normal and practical, just an ordinary person; Your image isn’t lofty at all! Who will still idolize You and look up to You? If people don’t look up to You or idolize You, can they still have a place for You in their hearts?” I say, I truly don’t seek this. It’s quite fine if you don’t look up to Me or idolize Me; I’m quite at ease with that. Some people say, “If people don’t look up to You or idolize You, is that still called following God?” Whether you look up to or idolize Me—these things are not important; I truly don’t care about them. If you don’t look up to or idolize Me, but you can ponder with your heart every word I say, every aspect of truth I fellowship, accept them as God’s words, and conduct yourself, act, and view people and things based on these words, that is enough—My words will not have been spoken in vain. Say you don’t look up to or idolize Me, but the words I speak and the sermons I preach bring you before God, enabling you to know how to pursue the truth, enabling you to know how to act according to the truth principles when faced with every matter, to learn how to conduct yourself and act, to learn how to do the duty of a created being, to know how to be loyal to God and how to do your duty in a way that is up to standard, to know how to submit to God, fear God and shun evil, and ultimately enabling you to cast off your corrupt dispositions and be gained by God. Then My words will not have been spoken in vain, and their purpose will have been achieved. As for Me, it is enough if you can treat Me correctly, treating Me fairly and reasonably according to the principles. My requirements of you are not high. I have previously mentioned the three principles for our interactions: Be candid with Christ, respect Him, and obey His words. It is enough if you can practice according to these three principles. I do not need people to idolize Me, nor do I need people’s admiration or high regard. I do not need people to have an image of Me in their hearts. I am not interested in these things. Many people particularly idolize figures who are lofty in image, distinct from others, extraordinarily capable, and outstanding, believing that God incarnate cannot be a normal, practical, and ordinary Son of man. Those who have never met Me naturally assume My image is loftier than that of ordinary people, particularly imposing. You absolutely must not think this way. I am not imposing at all; I’m quite small in stature and short in height. In daily life, My words and actions are particularly normal and practical. All the aspects of My daily life—how I dress, My clothing, food, housing, and transportation—are particularly ordinary. I never seek to be one of a kind, nor do I ever seek to be unique. I only seek to do things in a rule-abiding manner, conduct Myself according to My proper station, do My work well, fulfill My ministry, and speak clearly and thoroughly what needs to be said. These are My principles for conducting Myself and acting. I do not have the human pursuit of being distinct, of being extraordinary and great, nor do I ever seek to be recognized at a glance in a crowd. Even if you don’t recognize Me in a crowd, I will not be sad or upset at all, nor will I ever feel I have lost face, and of course, I certainly will not say you are offending Me.

When I speak and work and have contact with you, whether I am fellowshipping any aspect of the truth, or fellowshipping to resolve problems in any aspect, or just chatting about everyday things or talking about something, I always strive to make Myself understood by you, and no matter what things I talk about, I do so to benefit people. Of course, if the fellowship is about issues that involve the truth, then it is even more essential that it enables people to gain principles for practicing the truth and find paths to resolve those issues. If it’s just chatting about everyday things, that’s even more normal, because it’s a need of normal humanity. What does this need of normal humanity refer to? It means that sometimes people need to communicate and share what they see and hear in their daily lives. Talking about everyday things, chatting, and sharing with others are all needs of the conscience and rationality of normal humanity. For Me, sharing things is more often about helping you understand more about this world, this society, and this mankind, and also telling you how you should view some of the things that happen in this society and among this mankind, how to understand evil trends, how to understand various things, and how to understand various kinds of people. Even when chatting or talking about everyday matters, I will from time to time, or briefly, discuss some essential issues relating to people, events, and things. So, no matter the occasion, when people have contact with Me, what they see, hear, and comprehend about Me is that I am not extraordinary at all, but all normal, practical, and ordinary. Living with such a human appearance, I feel particularly free and at ease when I live with people. If you think I have any actions that are extraordinary and distinct from others, or that some part of My outward facial features or some other aspect of Me is distinct from others or particularly extraordinary, if you think that way, then I will feel very uneasy and uncomfortable. I really dislike people saying such things, and I also really dislike people looking at Me in that way. Especially some people, when they meet Me for the first time, observe Me, scanning the look in My eyes, My facial features, carefully listening to every word I use and the tone of My voice, wanting to see if I am as extraordinary and distinct from others as they imagined. I say, there’s no need for that; there’s no need to observe or scrutinize Me. I am a very ordinary and normal person. When you interact with Me, you should be relaxed, free, and at ease. If you always observe and scrutinize, the more you scrutinize, the more tired you will become, and the more confused you will become. If I am scrutinized and observed by you, I will feel more and more dislike and revulsion toward you. No matter how you scrutinize Me, if you don’t understand what I say, don’t know what My words actually refer to, and don’t know what the truth principles that should be understood here are, then what’s the use of your scrutiny? Your scrutiny is even more disgusting. Once, someone—I don’t know if he had been observing for a long time or saw it unintentionally—said that My eyes had a bright spot, and that one look was enough to show I was God. I said, “What else did you see? Did you see the Spirit of God descending on Me like a dove? Did you see a two-edged sword coming out of My mouth? Did you see My whole body like a pillar of light? Did you see an iron rod in My hand? You say you saw a bright spot in My eyes, but what you say is wrong. The Bible says, ‘His eyes were as a flame of fire.’ According to your understanding, you should have seen My two eyes like flames to perceive something of God’s divine aura, but you only saw a bright spot, so that means you’re denigrating God.” Tell Me, didn’t this person make a fool of himself? Isn’t this a manifestation of small stature? (Yes.) I tell you, you don’t need to observe or scrutinize these things. Just listening to these words I express is enough to enable you to enter the truth reality and embark on the path of salvation. If you insist on observing, what problems will arise? Not only will there be no results, but you will also not be able to know God in the slightest, and your notions about God will become stronger and stronger. The incarnate God is not at all related to God’s person or God’s true form that He speaks about, or the image of God prophesied by God in Revelation, or the image of God that mankind has seen through past records. So, no matter how you observe God incarnate, He is always normal and practical, an ordinary person; He will not show you a side that is extraordinary or distinct from others. So what do I mean by saying these words? I am simply telling you that you should not observe or scrutinize God incarnate. The more you scrutinize Him, the further God will be from you. If you don’t scrutinize Him, but submit purely and are able to accept the truth, the Holy Spirit will enlighten and illuminate you, guiding you to understand the truth. If you always observe and scrutinize Him, the Holy Spirit will forsake you. Once the Holy Spirit forsakes you, it will be as if your whole vision goes black and you can’t make out a thing. You won’t understand God’s words when you read them; when anything happens to you, you won’t be able to see through it or know what to do, and when you fellowship with others, you won’t know where to start. You will feel so awkward and be at a loss even doing the simplest thing you used to be able to do. That’s when things go completely wrong. Are these good signs? (No.) So, when these signs occur, you must turn back quickly and stop observing and scrutinizing God. And don’t do it when these signs do not occur, either. Why shouldn’t you do it? This path leads nowhere; this path is not the one you should take. The path you should take in following God is to accept the truth and submit to God, not to observe, scrutinize, or test God. Especially with God incarnate, if you have never seen Him and don’t know what He looks like, it’s normal to size Him up carefully when you first meet. After sizing Him up, you have some impression of Him, and you can match His voice to the voice speaking in the sermon recordings, “So this is what God incarnate looks like, this is His height, this is how He dresses. He is truly normal, practical, and ordinary—it is all true, just as described in God’s words.” This is enough; stop there. Don’t keep putting effort into scrutinizing this matter in your heart. Next, you should listen carefully to what God is fellowshipping, ponder what aspect of truth the matter God is fellowshipping on involves, quickly write it down, then use your heart to contemplate it, and after understanding it, put it into practice. This is the correct way to treat Christ—God incarnate. No matter how I fellowship, no matter what content I fellowship, when it involves God incarnate, I always try to get you to know God’s normality, practicality, and ordinariness, rather than associating Him with, or knowing Him as, being extraordinary, great, unique, or distinct from others. Every matter I speak of, every example I give, is related to this topic of the normality, practicality, and ordinariness of God incarnate. I will absolutely not fabricate something to make you mistakenly think I am distinct from others, extraordinary, or great, that I have the bearing of a leader, the magnanimity of a great man, or the breadth of mind and height of a great man. Let Me tell you, I never understand what “height” or “breadth of mind” means, nor do I ponder or put My heart into those aspects. What do I ponder? I ponder which topics to fellowship with you on that can bring you into the truth reality, which topics can urge, lead, help, and guide you, so that you have the willingness and resolve to suffer and pay a price, and are able to pursue the truth, do your duty well, and attain salvation. I always ponder which topics to speak on and which sermons to preach, so that people can embark on the path of salvation, fulfill their duty in a way that is up to standard, and become true created beings. No matter what topic I speak on, I always strive to help you become created beings who are up to standard, learn to submit to God, and develop a God-fearing heart. I never ponder what words to say that would make you look up to Me, or what things to do to make you admire Me, so that in your hearts you feel I am as unfathomable as a famous or great person; I have none of these things in My heart. I have never thought about how I should speak, My manner of speaking, or how I should style Myself to make you feel I am very lofty, to make you unable to fathom Me or reach Me, and to make you appear very insignificant and ignorant. I never think about these things in My heart, and never speak or act to protect My own status, image, or identity; I only wholeheartedly perform My ministry.

Sometimes when I’m tired, I go to where the brothers and sisters live to take a walk and look around. Sometimes I also stroll around the farm, looking at the vegetable plots, the pigs, and the sheep. When I see a kitten, I also pet it, hug it, and talk to it. When I see a cute puppy, I also give it a hug. There was a mother dog that gave birth to more than ten puppies. She was so happy in front of people, as if she had earned some credit. I praised her, saying: “Now you’re pleased with yourself, aren’t you? Look, you’ve given birth to so many puppies, you really did a great job, very good, well done!” I petted her and hugged her around the neck. I also visit the kennels, the farmland and vegetable patches, looking around everywhere; it’s really nice. Tell Me, do those great figures go to these dirty, smelly, messy places? They don’t. Especially places like kennels and pigsties with unpleasant odors—most people are unwilling to go there. I don’t like bad smells or unpleasant odors either, but a little smell from a puppy is tolerable. Sometimes puppies rub against Me, kiss and lick My face, and I give them a hug. Animals are very simple; they trust their masters and don’t need to be on guard, so they can play and interact with their masters to their hearts’ content. Their lives are that simple. Some people always say they like dogs, like small animals, and care for small animals, but when you ask them to hug a puppy, they are unwilling. They say, “Dogs are dirty and smelly, and they might even have viruses!” I say, “You’re so fussy. Don’t you like small animals? This isn’t truly liking them.” Aren’t such people quite hypocritical? (Yes.) They don’t consider themselves ordinary people; they think they are noble, have standing, and are great figures, so how could they interact with these small animals that people consider insignificant? Even if they touch them with their hands, they have to quickly wash their hands and disinfect them, and they even change their clothes, and when they get home, they immediately take a bath. They take cleanliness this far. Tell Me, aren’t such people strange? If you don’t truly like small animals, don’t pretend. Once people see you are pretending, they know you are too hypocritical and insincere, feel sick at the sight of you, and have a bad impression of you. If you don’t like animals, absolutely don’t pretend or try to make yourself look good. The more you try to make yourself look good, the uglier and lower people will think you are. Being honest and genuine is so much better. If you can’t be honest and genuine, it proves there’s a problem with your humanity. In any case, the normality and practicality of God incarnate is a fact, and His ordinariness is also a fact. Many people have seen these things by being in contact with Him and know that these are facts. These are the facts you most ought to understand and know. Such an ordinary, normal person is God incarnate, and this goes against people’s notions. If He acted like corrupt mankind, showing off about how distinct from others He is regardless of whether He did something major or minor, and trying to set Himself apart, that might conform to people’s notions. On one hand you have the various manifestations of corrupt humankind, and on the other you have the incarnate God who, despite expressing so much truth, still displays manifestations that are as normal as an ordinary person—which of these kinds of manifestations is a positive thing that benefits people? Which is a negative thing that people loathe and reject? Are you able to discern this to some extent now? (Yes.) Then we don’t need to go into more detail; let’s continue with the topic from last time.